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Prius a gas guzzler? Hummer owners rejoice...

Flag As InappropriateVariovox Variovox about 1 year ago about General Motors

It may be old news, but a Central Connecticut University article claiming that the Hummer has an overall more efficient and greener energy life-cycle than Toyota’s green machine, the Prius, is still cause for comment.

The data comes from a study created by CNW Marketing titled Dust to Dust around which people have raised a number of questions about the data’s validity and applicability to car energy life-cycles (namely because the Prius’ life cycle is cut off at 109,000 miles – so much for Toyota’s reliability).

For criticism, see here and here .

Criticism aside, I like the idea that this article might wipe the smiles off smug hybrid drivers like Cameron Diaz, DiCaprio and Will Ferrell, if only for an instant. I’m no fan of Hummers, but the fact that this article managed to raise such a furor and sent car owners (Prius, Hummer and others) scrambling to educate themselves about how energy efficient the cars in question might truly be – well, that deserves at least some sort of positive rating (even if the data turns out to be bogus).

Meanwhile, I’ll be visiting my GM dealership later this week…

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dsk

dsk about 1 year ago

Shouldn’t this be categorized under Toyota and not GM?

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matt

Not sure how to rate this

matt about 1 year ago

This is a great story, but it’s filed under GM, and I don’t think GM is doing anything special here, so I haven’t rated it.

It definitely is important to consider the total amount of energy consumed throughout the life of a product. I hadn’t considered the harmful effects of battery production — that’s definitely something to consider. But I wonder how these numbers are crunched and whether everything is in fact taken into account. For example, since the Prius uses less gasoline, shouldn’t we consider all the energy, pollution, and other harmful effects (displaced people, government corruption, etc) that goes into drilling for oil, building pipelines, building oil tankers, building refineries, etc?

I’d love to see a complete study of this — that would be fascinating.

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igoeja

True of Any New Technology...

igoeja about 1 year ago

New technologies, until they reach some point of mass production, will be more wasteful because of inefficiencies in customization. Somewhat heartening, the Scion is one of the lowest energy use cars, meaning there are alternatives. It’s small, efficient, and mass-produced.

As always. consider the source. It is from a marketing company, likely paid for by the Detroit car makers, and as always, one needs to check the underlying assumptions. Statistics don’t lie, but the people that spout them do; estimated numbers are easy to twist.

For an interesting assessment of the efficiency of green policies, examining the contradictions, try Hard Green by Huber. It lacks substantiation but is thought-provoking.

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Variovox

Variovox about 1 year ago

I had a feeling I would get a “I’m not sure how to rate this” response.

My initial leaning was to put it under Toyota, because it illustrates how the Prius has been mis-marketed as the panacea of efficient automotive transportation.

I eventually put it under GM as a more of tongue-in-cheek gesture; since the commentary applies equally to GM as it does to Toyota, I thought it would be interesting to credit the Hummer with at least being straightforward in its representation as a gas-guzzler.

I have removed my rating, and I’ll likely switch it over to Toyota in the near future, as it will be less confusing this way…

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skyking

Corp Marketing BS??

skyking about 1 year ago

Just doing this for sales?? Have some Indie Body study these tests Then submit. Indie Body not tied to Automotive Ind. Any car maker BUT true Consumer orientation. Hummer weighs more has to drink more Fuel. Data is OFF or skewed at worst. Oh Yes for every NEW GM, Ford car U buy U pay $15,000 in UAW benefits to workers. No Ill get my Used 2004 Vette. No more GM for me. NO new GM for me. The 15,000 is in the cars price overall & or with Options. ALL models.

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Andre

The Prius is not the problem....

Andre about 1 year ago

If you read the article you will find out that the problem is not the Prius itself but the production process of the nickel that is causing the pollution. I think the article is biased in that aspect because if you evaluate both cars in with all the environmental impacts the Hummer represents the largest amount of metal, plastic and fuel consumption over it’s lifetime… As far a the nickel production goes it’s obvious that better pollution control is needed…

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